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    Post  Brian Moffet Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:05 pm

    Well, I'll be having a new Metzeler Lasertec front tire put on Saturday, I'm dropping back down to stock size, 100/90x18 (for 1983). When the rear gets replaced, I'll probably drop it back down to stock as well (currently at 120/90)

    FYI, I'll let you know how they work in the city.

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    Post  H2O Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:49 pm

    I don't think Metzeler makes a 110/90-18 rear Lasertec. The choices I've found are a 4.00-18 or the 120/90-18. The guys at American Moto Tire told me the 4.00 is smaller than the 110/90.

    Just figured I'd let you know what I found with rear tires when I was looking at replacing the SuperVenoms last year. The sizing is the only reason I didn't go with the Lasertecs. However, I may be going with them on my next set, using the 120/90-18 rear.

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    Post  Brian Moffet Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:25 pm

    Hmm, if they don't then I'll probably stick to the 120...

    I have to admit, when the guy came back on the phone and asked "I don't know how fast you ride this bike, but you can save money by going with the H-rated version of this tire" I burst out laughing...

    Postscript, you're right. I forgot that they had distinct tread patterns. 120/90 it is when it wears down...
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    Post  Kid Jedi Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:00 pm

    I switched to the metzlers. 100/90 front 4.00 rear. AMAZING (from 90/90f and 120/90 rear Cheing Shin) They feel fantastic. the 4.0 rear works out to be 101.5/90-18. its about a 1% difference, so i think its pretty negligible.

    The first turn i took i yelled in surprise in to my headset. the vision DOVE in to the corner, and BOUNDED back out, it was 'mazing! But i think that is on 20% the metzlers doing, the other 80% was the mismatched sizing before.

    Also, get some good valve stems wile you are at it, but you guys probably already knew that one.
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    Post  Brian Moffet Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:46 pm

    Standard on the 1983 is 100/90 front and 110/90 rear. I did notice that the front end felt more like steering quickly with the 100 front, though I am not sure whether that is the size decrease (110 down to 100) or a new rounded tire Very Happy
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    Post  H2O Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:48 am

    [quote="Kid Jedi"]I switched to the metzlers. 100/90 front 4.00 rear. AMAZING (from 90/90f and 120/90 rear Cheing Shin) They feel fantastic. the 4.0 rear works out to be 101.5/90-18. its about a 1% difference, so i think its pretty negligible. [quote]

    It's a greater difference than that. Compare a 100/90-18 to a 110/90-18 side by side (same brand & model tire). If a 4.00-18 comes to a 101.5/90-18, it would be like running two front sized tires on the bike.

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    Post  cdnlouie Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:06 pm

    I just put an Avon 100/90 Venom X on my front. Man, the tire tread design looks sharp! I used one on my Venture and was super impressed over the Dunlop Elites. I'm not disappointed on the Vision either. Extremely precise & progressive steering to my old Bridgestone Spitfire. It greatly improves confidence in cornering. I am going with the 110/90 rear Avon Roadrider until they no longer become available.
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    Post  Site Admin Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:47 pm

    Looks like I'll be looking for some replacements. Found a roofing nail firmly embedded in the center of YJ's rear tire tread. From the looks of it, its a bigun too. Sad

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    Post  Brian Moffet Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:59 pm

    So far I like the Metzeler Lasertec 100/90 on my bike. It's pretty much the same tire I had before, but in San Francisco the tire and mounting are expensive (along with everything else.) I think I mentioned that the new tire seems to make my bike more responsive, and I don't know whether that's because of the 100/90 or the fact that it's not worn. Either way, it drops into and out of corners easily.

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    P.S. sorry to hear about the bad news on the tire.

    Oh yes, it was rather amusing getting the tire mounted. I think 1/2 the staff had to go out and look at my bike, including one of them who said the Vision was his first bike. They were impressed that I have that many miles on it (44000 almost), that I am the original owner, and that it's the original stator... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  achmed Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:22 pm

    Kid Jedi wrote:
    the 4.0 rear works out to be 101.5/90-18. its about a 1% difference, so i think its pretty negligible.


    101.5mm compared to 110mm stock is a 7.72% difference
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    Post  cdnlouie Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:57 pm

    Brian, I think you and your stator should be nominated for "sainthood." At the very least you are leading a very charmed life, let's keep it going just for the record books!

    It would be nice to have a few bikes with different tires (close to new) to compare side by side. New is definitely better than old and most high end brands are really amazing quality now and even "affordable" brands are decent rides these days. It's a treat to be able to buy a decent tire every now and then.

    Enjoy the new skins!
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    Post  Kid Jedi Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:43 am

    lol. you guys completely missed the point. I wanted 100/90-18 on the rear.
    but i am gonna back the front down to 90/90-18 on the next front I buy.

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